Sunday, February 24, 2008

Topic: The Air American “Caucus”: which Democrat will be the Strongest this Fall?”

Panelists: Richard Greene with Lionel and Randi

Mark talks about Ralph Nader.

Mark was a Nader raider for 10 years. He thinks Ralph would say he’s running because Obama and Hillary drink from the same trough. Nader was on “The Nation” cruise. Everyone was hostile to start, but then they were charmed by his reasoning. It’s important that 3rd parties change the agenda of America and so should he.

Lionel “advocates” for Hillary.

She’s against diarrhea. (same theme from this morning! :-))

Does not have charisma. She gets on Lionel’s nerve. BUT she’s been slammed for her clothes, her hair, Bill, etc. She is tough as nails. She’s a bitch and we need one. She is not about change. She believes in evolution, she has a mandatory health care plan. Barack’s is not mandatory. Biggest problem is she voted for the authorization of the war. Remember the zeitgeist at the time (audience boos!!). But she doesn’t have the guts to say “I made a mistake”. She’s for stem cell research funding. We have a scary world right now. You do get 2 for the price of one, and right now, that’s a GOOD thing.

Richard speaks for Obama
We are despised around the world. The only person who can turn that around is Obama. Preactively, proactively he will meet with our enemies.
Randi speaks for the undecided
2 issues – voter turnout. Election integrity.
Bottom of the ticket – coattails.

Group discussion of why pro Hillary, then pro-Obama. Then people got up and spoke about why NOT Obama or why NOT Hillary. Lots of heated discussion. Mark then asked who changed their minds. Only one did, as far as I could see. His comment was that he was switching from Barack to Hillary because of the millions of right-wing zealots who passed out 60 million brochures in past elections. Elect Hillary, he said, so we can drive those folks nuts! And that’s the way it is.

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